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#1 toto

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Posted 21 June 2009 - 14:59

Er a Canabisi sjlft, .e. neysla ess ea eru a nlgin vi "dlerinn" og ll au efni sem hann selur, sem sem leiir flk t neyslu sterkari efna ?
Whereas the banks used to be considered too big to fail, if their current growth continues, they may soon become too big for the government of Iceland to rescue. Accordingly, the government should consider making an xplicit statement that there is no unconditional government guarantee of bank lending.
- OECD Economic Surveys, Iceland 2006

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Posted 21 June 2009 - 15:01

Eitt arf ekki a tiloka anna, hugsanlega hefur bi efni sjlft og nlgin vi dlerinn eitthva a segja.

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Posted 21 June 2009 - 19:33

g fann etta B2, eftir a g setti inn fyrsta pstinn.


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Niurstaa rgjafarnefndar bresku rkisstjrnarinnar um kannabis ri 2002 var a ekki vri unnt a fullyra a kannabis leiddi til ess a flk veri frekar h sterkari efnum. Hins vegar taldi nefndin a essi tengsl vru ltil og skrslu nefndarinnar fr 2008 er etta rtta og jafnframt a essi tengsl vru veikari en hva varar tbak og alkhl (8).

Whereas the banks used to be considered too big to fail, if their current growth continues, they may soon become too big for the government of Iceland to rescue. Accordingly, the government should consider making an xplicit statement that there is no unconditional government guarantee of bank lending.
- OECD Economic Surveys, Iceland 2006

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 08:31

a fer eftir prefrence hj fklum eiturlyf

a eru 3 aaltpur sem fara san subgenres:

SUmir fklar skjast downers: Hass,fengi,Benzoprines(valium,rivotril),morfnsklydefni(kdein,oxycontin,morfn
,herin,fetanyl)
Arir uppers: Amfetamn og skyld efni(amfetamn,methamfetamn,dexrtoamfetamn,ritalin) og kkann
San er a 3 tpan sem eru hallugenics: Lsd,Dmt,Salvia Divi Nortum,sum svefnlyf(imovane og stillnox),mdma(sem er lka upper)

Margir fklar skjast fyrst og fremst hass en vilja ekki hass, expermential eiturlyfjafklar eru meira fyrir a nota dr efni og eru a aalega hallugenic. a er mjg sjaldgft a sj fkla skjast jafn alla 3 flokkana heldur kjsa eir einn flokk framyfir alla hina.


Subgenres af essum 3 flokkum eru mest hj ofskynjarefnum

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Delirants:

The deliriants (or anticholinergics) are a special class of acetylcholine-inhibitor dissociatives. The name comes from their primary effect of inducing a medical state of frank delirium, characterized by stupor, utter confusion, confabulation, and regression to "phantom" behaviors such as disrobing and plucking. Other commonly reported behaviors include holding full and lifelike conversations with imagined people, finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering you had not even begun yet, and being unable to recognize one's own reflection in a mirror (and thus becoming angry with the "stranger's" acts of mimicry). The effects have been likened to sleepwalking, a fugue state or a psychotic episode (particularly in that the subject has minimal control over their actions and little to no recall of the experience). This is a notable departure from typical hallucinogens.


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Dissociates:
A dissociative is a drug which reduces (or blocks) signals to the conscious mind from other parts of the brain[citation needed], typically, but not necessarily, limited to the senses. Such a state of sensory deprivation and dissociation can facilitate self-exploration, hallucinations, and dreamlike states of mind which may resemble some psychedelic mindstates.[citation needed] Essentially, similar states of mind can be reached via contrasting pathspsychedelic or dissociative. That said, the entire experience's risks and benefits are markedly different.[citation needed]

The primary dissociatives are similar in action to phencyclidine (PCP), and include ketamine and dextromethorphan (DXM). Also included are nitrous oxide (laughing gas), salvia divinorum, and muscimol from the amanita muscaria (fly agaric) mushroom.

Many dissociatives have central nervous system depressant effects, thereby carrying risks similar to opioids. At high doses, such drugs slow breathing and lower the heart rate to levels which can result in death.

Their effects are characterized by intense feelings of depersonalization, derealization, and analgesia.


San er 3 flokkurinn af ofskyjnarefnum psycheldics ofskyjunarefni
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A psychedelic substance is a psychoactive drug whose primary action is to alter the cognition and perception of the mind. Psychedelics are part of a wider class of psychoactive drugs known as hallucinogens, which also includes related substances such as dissociatives and deliriants. Unlike other drugs such as stimulants and opioids which induce familiar states of consciousness, psychedelics tend to bend and twist the mind in ways that result in the experience being qualitatively different from those of ordinary consciousness. The psychedelic experience is often compared to non-ordinary forms of consciousness such as trance, meditation, yoga, and dreaming.

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 10:40

g ori ekki a fullyra a a s a llu leyti h efninu sjlfu en g er ess algerlega fullviss a a a efni er lglegt og flk arf dpundirheimana til a nlgast a, er hfuskudlgurinn.
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#6 Kryptonian

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 11:30

QUOTE (rads @ 23. June, 2009, 10:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
g ori ekki a fullyra a a s a llu leyti h efninu sjlfu en g er ess algerlega fullviss a a a efni er lglegt og flk arf dpundirheimana til a nlgast a, er hfuskudlgurinn.


ll neysla hltur a auka lkurnar annarskonar neyslu, hversu margir bindindismenn fara beint kkani?

En lykilatrii er a a kannabis er ekki a auka lkurnar neitt meira heldur en lglegu fkniefnin ef vi mnusum neikva umhverfi sem fylgir lgleika ess.


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Posted 23 June 2009 - 21:22

QUOTE(Butcer @ 23. June, 2009, 10:31) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
a fer eftir prefrence hj fklum eiturlyf

a eru 3 aaltpur sem fara san subgenres:

SUmir fklar skjast downers: Hass,fengi,Benzoprines(valium,rivotril),morfnsklydefni(kdein,oxycontin,morfn
,herin,fetanyl)
Arir uppers: Amfetamn og skyld efni(amfetamn,methamfetamn,dexrtoamfetamn,ritalin) og kkann
San er a 3 tpan sem eru hallugenics: Lsd,Dmt,Salvia Divi Nortum,sum svefnlyf(imovane og stillnox),mdma(sem er lka upper)

Margir fklar skjast fyrst og fremst hass en vilja ekki hass, expermential eiturlyfjafklar eru meira fyrir a nota dr efni og eru a aalega hallugenic. a er mjg sjaldgft a sj fkla skjast jafn alla 3 flokkana heldur kjsa eir einn flokk framyfir alla hina.


Subgenres af essum 3 flokkum eru mest hj ofskynjarefnum


San er 3 flokkurinn af ofskyjnarefnum psycheldics ofskyjunarefni


Hrna ertu a einskora ig vi fkla .. a er/verur bara lti brot af Canabis neytendum, fklar.

QUOTE(Kryptonian @ 23. June, 2009, 13:30) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ll neysla hltur a auka lkurnar annarskonar neyslu, hversu margir bindindismenn fara beint kkani?


Hversu margir Canabis neytendur fara kkani ? Lang strstur hluti af jafnldrum mnum sem prfu cannabis egar g var unglingur fru ekkert lengra fiktinu og/ea uru ekki fklar.
Whereas the banks used to be considered too big to fail, if their current growth continues, they may soon become too big for the government of Iceland to rescue. Accordingly, the government should consider making an xplicit statement that there is no unconditional government guarantee of bank lending.
- OECD Economic Surveys, Iceland 2006

#8 Kryptonian

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 22:01

QUOTE (toto @ 23. June, 2009, 21:22) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hversu margir Canabis neytendur fara kkani ? Lang strstur hluti af jafnldrum mnum sem prfu cannabis egar g var unglingur fru ekkert lengra fiktinu og/ea uru ekki fklar.


Einmitt rtt eins og flestir sem drekka fengi fara aldrei kkani.

En a segir sig samt sjlft a um lei og ert kominn me a hugarstand a a s lagi a nota vmuefni eykur a lkurnar a farir eitthva anna.

Hvort er bindindismaur (ekki fyrrverandi fkill heldur einhver sem hefur aldrei veri neinu) ea kannabisneytandi lklegri til ess a prfa kkan?

g er fylgjandi lgleiingu en g tla ekki a loka augunum og tra v a a s ekkert slmt vi kannabis, etta eru nnast orin trarbrg hj sumum hrna.

Edited by Kryptonian, 23 June 2009 - 22:01.



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Posted 24 June 2009 - 01:47

QUOTE(Kryptonian @ 24. June, 2009, 0:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Einmitt rtt eins og flestir sem drekka fengi fara aldrei kkani.

En a segir sig samt sjlft a um lei og ert kominn me a hugarstand a a s lagi a nota vmuefni eykur a lkurnar a farir eitthva anna.


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Hvort er bindindismaur (ekki fyrrverandi fkill heldur einhver sem hefur aldrei veri neinu) ea kannabisneytandi lklegri til ess a prfa kkan?


g held a srt a blanda saman tveimur skyldum hlutum hrna. fyrra dminu ertu a tala um "abstinance" .e. smu afer og stjrn George W. Bush notai til a rttlta a afskrifa frslu um getnaarvarnir.

a hvort ert "Abstinent" hefur etv hrif hvort prfar efni X, en a er algerlega skylt umru um hvort neysla efnis X leii til neyslu efnis Y.

Fkill er og verur fkill, og g held einfaldlega a "abstinance" s ekki eitthva sem getur nota sem forvarnir fyrir fkniefnavandann, v "flk einfaldlega virkar ekki annig". rurinn um a "segja bara nei" virkar bara "gu brnin"

Prfau a setja eitthva anna inn fyrir "canabis" textanum hj r, "bjr" t.d., og hann er alveg jafn "rttur", en a dettur engum hug a tala um a bjrdrykkja auki httuna kkan neyslu.


QUOTE(Kryptonian @ 24. June, 2009, 0:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
g er fylgjandi lgleiingu en g tla ekki a loka augunum og tra v a a s ekkert slmt vi kannabis, etta eru nnast orin trarbrg hj sumum hrna.


a m alveg segja a sama um andstinga Canabis, rkin sem eru notu gegn lgleiingu vera veikari og veikari, a er hvert hlmstr nota, og etta me a "vihorf flks til canabis megi ekki breytast v auki a httuna a flk s tilbi til a prfa sterkari efni" er hluti af v.

etta eru nkvmlega smu rk og voru notu gegn bjrnum snum tima. a tti allt a fara til helvtis vegna es a vihorf flks til fengis mundi breytast.
Whereas the banks used to be considered too big to fail, if their current growth continues, they may soon become too big for the government of Iceland to rescue. Accordingly, the government should consider making an xplicit statement that there is no unconditional government guarantee of bank lending.
- OECD Economic Surveys, Iceland 2006

#10 Kryptonian

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 02:12

toto er eitthva a misskilja mig.

QUOTE (toto @ 24. June, 2009, 1:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
g held a srt a blanda saman tveimur skyldum hlutum hrna. fyrra dminu ertu a tala um "abstinance" .e. smu afer og stjrn George W. Bush notai til a rttlta a afskrifa frslu um getnaarvarnir.


g var ekki a mla me v a a veri hvatt flk til ess a gerast bindindismenn, g veit a a virkar ekki. a breytir hinsvegar ekki v a s sem hefur ekki prfa nein fkniefni er sur lklegur til ess a prfa X (random) fkniefni heldur en s sem hefur prfa eitthva.

etta eru hinsvegar sjlfu sr ekki rk gegn neyslu kannabis ea lgleiingu ess neitt frekar en egar kemur a rum fkniefnum, etta jafnt vi ll fkniefni bi lgleg og lgleg.

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Fkill er og verur fkill, og g held einfaldlega a "abstinance" s ekki eitthva sem getur nota sem forvarnir fyrir fkniefnavandann, v "flk einfaldlega virkar ekki annig". rurinn um a "segja bara nei" virkar bara "gu brnin"


Nei a er ekki eitthva sem getur nota sem fornarnir, g sagi a lka aldrei og mlti aldrei me v heldur.

a sem g sagi er raun svipa og a segja a skrlfi s besta vrnin gegn getnai og kynsjkdmum. Auvita virkar slk bending ekki forvrnum en a breytir hinsvegar ekki v a eir fu sem stunda skrlf eru sur lklegir til ess a lenda v.

QUOTE (toto @ 24. June, 2009, 1:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Prfau a setja eitthva anna inn fyrir "canabis" textanum hj r, "bjr" t.d., og hann er alveg jafn "rttur", en a dettur engum hug a tala um a bjrdrykkja auki httuna kkan neyslu.

Allt lagi...

"Bjr eykur httuna kkanneyslu". Heyru etta bara snarvirkai enda er a stareynd a bjr eins og ll nnur fkniefni eykur lkurnar frekari neyslu, s sem drekkur fengi er lklegri til ess a prfa kkan heldur en s sem hefur veri bindindismaur allt sitt lf.

QUOTE (toto @ 24. June, 2009, 1:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
rkin sem eru notu gegn lgleiingu vera veikari og veikari, a er hvert hlmstr nota, og etta me a "vihorf flks til canabis megi ekki breytast v auki a httuna a flk s tilbi til a prfa sterkari efni" er hluti af v.

etta eru nkvmlega smu rk og voru notu gegn bjrnum snum tima. a tti allt a fara til helvtis vegna es a vihorf flks til fengis mundi breytast.


Einmitt etta er rtt hj r.



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Posted 24 June 2009 - 03:13

QUOTE(Kryptonian @ 23. June, 2009, 22:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Einmitt rtt eins og flestir sem drekka fengi fara aldrei kkani.

En a segir sig samt sjlft a um lei og ert kominn me a hugarstand a a s lagi a nota vmuefni eykur a lkurnar a farir eitthva anna.

Hvort er bindindismaur (ekki fyrrverandi fkill heldur einhver sem hefur aldrei veri neinu) ea kannabisneytandi lklegri til ess a prfa kkan?

g er fylgjandi lgleiingu en g tla ekki a loka augunum og tra v a a s ekkert slmt vi kannabis, etta eru nnast orin trarbrg hj sumum hrna.


verur a fyrirgefa. g veit a a er dnaskapur a klippa t setningar r innleggjum flks en g stst ekki mti. g hef nefnilega heyrt etta svo oft. fyrsta lagi vil g benda a arna er rtt ornotkun. etta heita vmuefni. En fengi er lka vmuefni. ru lagi langar mig a varpa fram eirri spurningu hvort vmuefni su slm, svona sjlfu sr. Hvort flk s almennt eirri skoun a a s vont a flk fari vmu? Og meina g a sjlfsgu fyrir utan hliarverkanir missa vmuefna sem tengjast fkn og almennt slmu slarstandi o.fl.
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 03:29

QUOTE (Alex @ 24. June, 2009, 3:13) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
verur a fyrirgefa. g veit a a er dnaskapur a klippa t setningar r innleggjum flks en g stst ekki mti. g hef nefnilega heyrt etta svo oft. fyrsta lagi vil g benda a arna er rtt ornotkun. etta heita vmuefni. En fengi er lka vmuefni.


Einmitt fengi er lka vmuefni, meira a segja sterkara en kannabis.

QUOTE (Alex @ 24. June, 2009, 3:13) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ru lagi langar mig a varpa fram eirri spurningu hvort vmuefni su slm, svona sjlfu sr. Hvort flk s almennt eirri skoun a a s vont a flk fari vmu? Og meina g a sjlfsgu fyrir utan hliarverkanir missa vmuefna sem tengjast fkn og almennt slmu slarstandi o.fl.


Persnulega finnst mr a sjlfsagt persnufrelsi a mega fara vmu, g geri a sjlfur (me bi fengi og rum efnum) og er almennt ekkert mti v a arir geri a.

Maur fer nttrulega vmu af v a stunda rttir, mr finnst a sjlfsagt a sumir slasist vi ikun.





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